Looking outside of our group into Genesys itself one always had the feeling of being a bit of a stepchild, part of which was due to not being located in Daly City. That problem was orders of magnitude worse when dealing with supposed peers within Alcatel-Lucent. On a corporate level, one got the impression that ALU wasn't even aware that they were selling software products. From what I understand, shortly after I left ALU sold most of its software devision (or at least Genesys) to a VC firm, so hopefully that negative aspect has been eliminated.