Pape-Dawson reviews

4.2

82% would recommend to a friend

(174 total reviews)

Trey Dawson

99% approve of CEO

85% positive business outlook

Pape-Dawson has an employee rating of 4.2 out of 5 stars, based on 174 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have an excellent working experience there. The Pape-Dawson employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Construction, Repair & Maintenance Services industry (3.7 stars).

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174 reviews
3.0
May 27, 2019
Recommend
CEO approval
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Pros

Pape-Dawson Engineers is a solid company with over 50 years of experience and expertise. The company is reputable, has a good benefits package, yearly income adjustments (cost of living raises), and multiple offices in four major markets around Texas. They are heavily involved with charitable work and doing what they can to give back to the community. They do offer some very nice year end bonuses.

Cons

It seems that upper management has no real interest in providing opportunities for their CAD technicians to grow their careers. On most teams, even with the title of Designer or Sr. Designer, you will not get many opportunities to do any actual design work, short of laying out some water or sewer lines. Its almost as if there is little to no trust in having non-engineers do any real design. Even if you have years and years of design experience under your belt, 99% of all design is entrusted to engineers. Including 1st year engineers who are still learning the ins and outs of the industry. In short, PD offers no real career path for CAD technicians. There are no job descriptions so don't expect to have any benchmarks to help guide you along the way. You will get no training when you start. So you'll have to rely on asking someone on your team how to do every little thing, which cuts productivity and doesn't always allow the time needed for the information to sink in. Also, you'll be expected to do plats as a technician. So if you thought you'd be coming in, learning about design and strictly working on design projects, think again. Plats will be required, even though I personally feel that plats should be done by survey technicians and be a part of the survey department. Thats where that level of expertise belongs. PD seems to have this "sink or swim" mentality so if you're not a fast learner or absorb a lot of information thrown at you real fast, you're going to struggle to learn the "PD way" of doing things. You cannot wear earbuds and you cannot create a workspace that is your own. In most cases, you'll be told you can't have certain things in your cubicle for whatever reason management seems fit to enforce. There is very little room for self expression. Working 8 to 5 is frowned upon by many project managers. The unwritten rule is you're expected to put in 45 to 50 hours a week. If you stick around during lunch, get ready for your PM to ask you do something. Micro-managing seems to be something that a lot of managers at PD do. And many managers just have no people skills. They might be great at pumping out the jobs, cranking out the numbers and telling their clients "YES!" to every demand they have, but simply do not know how to manage people effectively. Some are rude, condescending, and out of touch with their team. Most of the time, no one says hello when you pass them in the hallway. It doesn't feel like a family at all, unless you're in good with upper management or with the right people. Office politics and favoritism exists. Engineers are heavily favored and groomed while technicians are left feeling undervalued and unimportant. One last thing, CAD is full of problems is very slow at times. Makes work very frustrating and difficult. For a company is this size, these problems shouldn't exist.

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Pape-Dawson Response
7y
Thank you for your review. We continue to be perfectly imperfect. However, each day we strive to get better and be better; therefore, your input is invaluable. Your comments and recommendations have been reviewed by our senior leadership team, as well as employees. It appears we need to do a much better job of communicating our open door policy which allows employees to come to any of our leaders in any office to share thoughts and concerns. Just because what we have done has worked for over 50 years, does not mean it can or will work for the next 50. We are listening, learning, and adapting.
1.0
Apr 18, 2019
Recommend
CEO approval
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Pros

Health and 401k benefits are solid. Slightly above industry norm for San Antonio. There are some truly kind and smart people that can teach a lot. This is very team dependent though. Salaried employees get paid straight time overtime. If you are new to the industry and want some place to cut your teeth, or are having trouble finding work elsewhere, this is a good place to start. You'll learn quickly but only in the area of your project manager's "expertise". If you like surface-level "we care for our employees" company events, they have birthday celebrations, a Christmas/Holiday party, and a few other things sprinkled throughout the year. If your self-worth as a human being is directly correlated to how many hours you work or how much money you earn the company then this place is a perfect fit.

Cons

Not a place for a long term career. Expect to only learn in one "field" (i.e. commercial, residential, water resources, etc.). It is almost impossible to switch teams and learn new things. This is regardless of your work ethic. It's almost easier to do a bad job and get kicked off on to another team. Expect to put in 45 hours minimum regardless of how efficiently you complete tasks. Realistically expect to be pushed towards 50 hours. If you finish your work in 40 hours, expect to get more work to ensure you have to put in more hours. Be ready to play office politics if you want to progress in any meaningful manner. Even then don't expect promotions based on your work quality and quantity. Promotions are almost exclusively based on years of service, unless you know someone who knows one of the officers or owners. If you don't believe this and end up interviewing there, take a look at all the people with offices vs cubicles and take note of the age gap. To their benefit, titles don't mean anything as you are expected to do anything the PM or VP asks. If your teammate goofs off, you are expected to pick up the their slack. You yearly raise will not reflect much unless you go fight for it or threaten to leave. Your first 2-3 years will be 60% paper work, 40% actual design work at best. This is heavily dependent on the team you are assigned to. Very few teams break from this norm. Very traditional mentality, just to list a few things: no music (even with headphones), phone should not be seen unless during breaks (strictly 10-10:15 and 3-3:15), 8:01 is considered late (they will take note and use it during performance review). I only lasted over 3 years because my own goals (getting a PE) aligned with the working there just long enough for me to tough it out. Now that I am at a new place I realize how much I underestimated the scale of how bad that place is for your overall health. They do a great job of selling you the family oriented persona, but it is only surface deep. At the end of the day profits and deadlines drive everything regardless of the your personal stress. Parting words: Take the positive reviews with a grain of salt. Around mid-2016 they started a glassdoor "review push". Employees were selected in small batches to sporadically post positive reviews with thinly veiled threats of repercussion if they didn't comply. Take a note of the trend of positive reviews, especially those listing no "Cons". The place is either heaven or those reviews were somewhat dishonest, you decide.

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Pape-Dawson Response
7y
While these comments are incredibly painful to hear, we are grateful you have shared this feedback with us on your experience. This information has caused us to pause and truly reflect on each of the comments made. Being true to our mission to become the most respected engineering firm in Texas, as well as to honor our core values, starts with how we treat our employees. Their ability to share their view is a critical component in effective communication and impacts our ability to serve them, our clients and the communities we have the privilege to serve. We do want you to know we genuinely appreciate all of your contributions to the success of the team you were a part of - as well as the projects you worked - on while you were here. We respect your decision to share this feedback publicly and would welcome an opportunity to have a discussion with you directly on anything else you believe would be important for us to hear, as well as any suggestions you may have for us. We hope the next step you have taken as a professional engineer provides you with all you need for a rewarding career. From what you have shared with us, it appears we failed to meet those expectations and for that, we apologize.
5.0
Feb 22, 2019

Love it

Recommend
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Pros

I love it here.

Cons

Fast paced intensity. Work hard play hard mentality. I love it tho.

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Pape-Dawson Response
6y
Thank you for your positive input! We certainly appreciate your time to rate us.
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