When you hear about the K Values they are definitely in decline. It was impressive to see how the leadership change from ex-CEO, Carlos Gutierrez who truly lived the K-Values started to die once he left. David McKay, was a decent man as well as John Bryant but they were both too concerned with meeting the quarterly results for Wall Street. CEO's should be looking out 25 years and setting the company up for long-terrm success. I don't blame them but the immediate gratification mentality in which we live. One thing that John Bryant did was to promote a very aggressive COO, Alistair Hirst, to reach the supply chain numbers. He was and is, in my opinion a person who believes that the only way to manage is through intimidation. The tougher you were in the plant, the better opportunity to be promoted. The long hours, politics and intimidation created an atmosphere that was conducive to finger-pointing, lack of team-work and for operators to hide the true numbers if they were bad. I truly hope things are getting better.