sometimes too fast pace and too many trials...and this requires careful organizations and planning. However, members globally are often very reasonable (these days), the past (many years ago), we often pursue ideas with a lot of anxiety given the high risk and lack of knowhows...nowadays, the table has flipped quite a bit and we do know what needs to be done and the challenges involved. So there are real challenges to making a final high quality consumer product (automotive, creators editions, et cetera). However, this challenge is part of any journey towards success.