Logical Position reviews

3.7

68% would recommend to a friend

(800 total reviews)
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Eric Scriven

76% approve of CEO

65% positive business outlook

Logical Position has an employee rating of 3.7 out of 5 stars, based on 800 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have a good working experience there. The Logical Position employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Media & Communication industry (3.7 stars).

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800 reviews
2.0
Apr 1, 2019
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Pros

Very nice and supportive managers, nice office, the occasional catered meal, a decent "start" to learning the basics of digital marketing

Cons

Fundamentally flawed business model that relies upon constantly hiring grossly underpaid employees at more or less the same rate it pushes them out with a pay and work structure that is simply unsustainable

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Logical Position Response
7y
From our VP of Sales and Marketing: Wow, I’m very sorry you had a less than 5-star experience, but I’m glad you had nice and supportive managers. We try our best to make the work/life balance as enjoyable as possible for our employees. As explained during the interview process, the first four months on the job can be tough, and most employees do not make more than the hourly wage during that period. However, of our current sales staff with more than 4 months of tenure, 40% earned our top tier “Presidents Club” in Q1 (including 5 from the Charlotte office), and will be making close to or above $60-$70k. Additionally, we have 19 assistant sales managers, 22 sales managers, 6 GM’s, 4 directors, and 1 VP, who all started in the exact same entry-level position and found success with the same tools. Next week we have 15 of our top producers heading on a Caribbean Cruise to celebrate their successes. All of these people made well above the average 1st year pay stated in the job posting. We have confidence in our system, but are always looking for ways improve it. So thank you for your very thorough feedback. The call volume “expectations” that you referenced have been carefully calculated based upon active data from our most successful staff. We use these micro goals because they have been proven to lead most people to success. Managers have maintained a very steady close rate for many years. If certain deals aren’t closing, there is a good chance that more quality appointments need to be put on the calendar; and this is something that can be controlled by the sales rep. By 5 months, it’s very common for employees to be doing many of their own reviews, and maintaining control over the entire sales process. Managers have scheduled weekly check-ins with their team members who are struggling to find success, and assistant managers are always there to help. We do our best to create an environment where all employees can thrive. However, not everyone figures it out. When this happens, most people understand it wasn’t a good fit, but occasionally some blame the “system”. We will closely analyze the points that you made to further improve our sales process. Thanks again for your review and your assistance making LP a better workplace.
5.0
Mar 31, 2019
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Pros

1) Management always looking to teach and grow 2) there are many positions that you can grow into. Everyone I know that stayed there has been promoted to a great position 3) people. Cannot stress this enough. Every day was wonderful

Cons

1) quota. Quota is two weeks and it is B2B sales, so the sales cycle takes a while. You may go pay periods without a deal.

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Logical Position Response
7y
Thank you for the feedback and for everything you did with LP. I'm glad you had a great experience. I agree on the communication training. We've taken some early steps there but need to roll it out faster. We wish you all the best in all of your future endeavors! Mike W.
1.0
Mar 27, 2019

I worked in sales and operations

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Pros

Pros: In my experience, LP is two completely different companies. A sales org and operations. Most of the pros only apply to the operations side of the company. These pros include: - Consistent snacks - Fun work sponsored events (although these have lessened in frequency as the company has tried to penny pinch a bit) - Fair pay based on bonuses on the ops side. I know some people who were able to clear 70k per year in their early twenties due to performance. - They treat their clients well. The company is built on reputation so it’s important to keep their clients happy. Upper management will go to great lengths to make their clients happy. - Low stress on the ops side. It was honestly a pleasure to be moved to operations, it’s a solid career path.

Cons

Cons: - Leadership in sales is comprised of a bunch of people who are severely under qualified. This goes all the way to the top level, who lucked into the position and is clearly disconnected from the sales floor. The sales managers are people with no leadership experience but had decent sales numbers or made friends with the right people and got promoted. The message and expectations are always changing. - The pay on the sales side is awful. Top managers dont even make six figures. - They constantly try to sell you on building a book of recurring business but then made it difficult to figure out what your book even is. It’s very shady. - You have to sell the client and then sell the company on the client you just sold. The quality control expectations are always changing so a client that you signed on last week and was fine, might not be fine by the time you get a second client with a similar business. - Limited training on the sales side. You need to figure it out yourself or the company will throw you aside like a used tissue. LP is only focused on company growth, people come second. - On the ops side, it’s very much like a high school. Everyone talks about everyone behind their back. I’ve even witnessed a love triangle in the office. My advice: Stay far away from the sales side of this company. There are plenty of entry level sales jobs in Portland that are far more lucrative. If you can get in on the ops side, do it. Many of the positive reviews on Glass Door about company culture are old and dated. The company is obviously cutting down on employee focused spending and it’s leading to a lot of issues.

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Logical Position Response
7y
Thank you for your feedback. I’m glad you are enjoying certain parts of operations but I’m sorry to hear about your experience in sales. I think you are right about there being too much separation between the departments. We have become very intentional about breaking down any silos with new procedures and roles. We want sales to stay as involved in the client lifecycle as possible without having too many cooks in the kitchen. The changes and new roles will hopefully accomplish the cohesion that we are looking for without overcomplicating the experience of our clients. I would like to address a few other points that you brought up: -The people in our sales leadership are held to a very high standard. We look at the production of their teams, the retention of their employees, and the promotions of the people they help develop. Nobody “lucked” into the position. They all earned it by working very hard and by standing out. This is a huge factor in our sales team winning several national awards and being regarded as one of the best in the industry. LSA actually just invited us as keynote speakers to explain how we have created such an amazing sales culture because it’s such a difficult thing to achieve. -The average pay for our sales team is constantly rising. We are finding ways to pay our people more, and will continue to do so - president’s club, business development executive, 2nd businesses, etc. We are also very upfront that sales isn’t for everyone. It can be tough, and it takes time to build a book. If you have been with us for 3 years, I’m pretty surprised that you think anything ‘shady’ might be going on. For the protection of our clients’ information, we were limited at one point in what we could share. We made some changes and were able to make most of that information visible in a safe way. If anything, we have a tendency to overpay on books when there is a transaction in question (a management fee is declined, or we waive a fee). -Quality control is ever-changing. Example: Google just released new rules about advertising for a certain industry, so now we are limiting the onboarding of those clients. Being in operations, I’m sure you can see why that department exists and why it has to move with the market. -Pinching pennies with social events. Again, I’m surprised you think this after being with us for 3 years. We almost doubled our budget this year for social events (per head). Not to mention a huge increase in philanthropic endeavors. The feedback from our employees is that they would like to see more money going to meaningful causes than happy hours. But we are actually doing more of both. We have an entire committee with over a dozen people dedicated to community involvement, education, athletics and social events. (kickball, softball, run/walk club, happy hours, paid volunteer time, winter parties, summer parties, ski days, polar plunges, basketball tickets, etc, etc.) In order to fund all of this and to continue offering new opportunities, we need to keep growing. But never at the expense of our people. I’m very sorry you feel like we are prioritizing growth over our people. We are constantly surveying our staff, facilitating one-on-ones and making sure that people are recognized. Our people are our biggest asset and our biggest differentiator. This is something we will never take for granted and is likely the reason that we have won as many culture-related awards as we have. At the end of the day, I’m sorry you feel this way. Hopefully some of my points resonate. I would love to help improve your experience in any way possible. If there is anything I can do, or if you just want to talk about any of this, please let me know. -Mike W.
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